The only JavaScript is disabled. But the SX4 has an upgraded trigger guard that is larger than the older version, so you can shoot it more easily with gloves on. You just don't have to worry about this gun getting wet, which is something to consider if you are going to be doing any foul weather hunting. Recreational and practical applications abound with these .22 caliber handguns. A forum community dedicated to Shotgun owners and enthusiasts including the Remington, Beretta, and Mossberg shotguns brands. Get started today before this once in a lifetime opportunity expires. I think my Browning's will hold up for tens of thousands of target rounds, but I know the Beretta . has done a very good job of continually improving this line and they stand In the end I bought a used Browning Citori Trap Model. The rubber slows that process. | The SX4 is the best value is a gas operated auto loader for the field. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. It's a gun I don't mind carrying around all day that's for sure. They are both gas guns, but the SX1 utilized a gas piston that traveled just far enough to set the bolt in motion and then relied on momentum to finish the process of ejecting a spent shotshell. By I do look after it though! category, in alphabetical order. We pulled many of these guns off the production line and put them through a 5,000-round ammo test, Frampton says. I actually like the cheek piece for another reason: It always lets you know where your cheek needs to be, so your head is on the stock properly. The Element is made in Turkey and comes at a very attractive price point - $599 for the base. The Evolution of Shotgun Coatings, From Blued Barrels to (Mostly) Impervious Firearm Finishes. One new winner* is announced every week! This gun gave me little issues too. This 26 inch barreled test gun is horribly nose-heavy and the 28 inch barrel versions will, naturally, be even worse. I've been taking apart the SX4 for a very long time. For those that own or have used the guns, which do you prefer and are there major differences? Never seen a 20 sx3 but would be surprised if browning allowed Winchester to use it? What's not to like! It also included 3 chokes and I bought a skeet choke. Imo, it is hard to beat a Browning shotguns. If you didn't know, these guns are manufactured byBrowning but the Maxus 2 is nearly double the price! We put all kinds of ammo through them. *Must have a registered ARFCOM account to win. Its too bad it didn't. Probably, but the A400 Xpolar is surely tempting albeit more money. Ive said it before: Theres not much left to upgrade on the inside of a shotgun. But since the only thing left to hunt in Illinois besides whitetails are grays and foxtails, he now spends most of the fall and winter searching for oak and black walnut trees, and walking behind a crazy Russian squirrel dog named Vladimir. If you love the Maxus 2 in your hands and all the added features, don't hesitate to go for it. Browning redesigned its popular Maxus semiauto this year, making enough changes to earn it the designation Maxus II. The SX4 is well-balanced as well. You have to see what feels better in your hands. Come join the discussion about optics, hunting, gunsmithing, styles, reviews, accessories, classifieds, and more! Only Franchis Affinity 3 and Berettas A300 Ultima rivaled the SX4, but both are 3-inch guns that cost about the same as the Winchester. Outdoor Hub, LLC (d/b/a Carbon Media Group), 30800 Telegraph Rd, Suite 1921, Bingham Farms, MI 48025 USA. Since we tested so many guns (17) in Texas, we picked one distance (35 yards) to pattern each gun from. Theres a certain way to load the shell that ensures it will be lifted into the chamber. With a budget around 1200-1500 wanting a good quality wood gun ..which would you recommend and why? The gun has never failed to cycle. It's a nice light shotgun for what it is. A very good auto the maxus - nearly as good as a beretta A400 Xplor ??? With very poor balance and handling, retina-scalding styling, an unacceptable trigger and an overall low-quality build, this is a shotgun model I will be delighted to never handle or shoot again. Recreational and practical applications abound with these .22 caliber handguns. If i was looking for a gun for sporting clays or wingshooting i would've went with the SX3, it seemed to be more balanced and swing better for me. Fits Winchester 12Ga, Browning Invector, Mossberg 500, Weatherby, pre 1993 Ruger Red label shotguns; Winchester sx-2, sx-3, & sxp Use Browning Invector plus tubes. less together in 2010, the Vinci has proved to be one of the most innovative and It had no problem gobbling them up. Winchester Super X4 Overview Winchester SX4. extra barrels ($799) all combine to make the A400 series one that has caused You have to be nit-picky to find something wrong with the SX4. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. The forearm is angular in shape for no functional reason. It was invented by John Brownings son, Val, and patented in 1952. Display as a link instead, It was a smooth, blocky fore-end that became slick in the rain or snow. It is the type Paying $1,800 and not getting that feature is a hard pill to swallow, and Im sure it made some hunters pass on the first iteration of the Maxus when it was introduced in 2009. The speed feed is only offered on 20 gauge models and it is invaluable to me. I'd call it above average. loads right out of the box. Read Next: The Evolution of Shotgun Coatings, From Blued Barrels to (Mostly) Impervious Firearm Finishes. You'll note that there are more thumbs-up models Both the Winchester and Browning are very similar with the Browning being just a few ounces lighter. There is now a reversible, rectangular cross-bolt safety. There are better duck guns than the SX4, but in terms of value, Winchesters auto-loader is unmatched. There is also a carbon-fiber sporting model with 28- and 30-inch barrel options. cause for lament is the goofy notched recoil pad that makes aftermarket I like the Winchester sx4 and the Browning silver due to price. BROWNING MAXUS Although the Maxus retains the heavy triggers of most current Browning autoloaders, it is one of the softest-shooting seven pound autoloaders out there. Easy on the eyes and shoulder alike, current Browning autoloaders, it is one of the softest-shooting seven pound The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. Articles may contain affiliate links which enable us to share in the revenue of any purchases made. up or thumbs down verdict on several firearms. The rest are cosmetic differences other than then bolt handle, and safety size. Did u notice the forearm being loose at all? Other changes are also puzzling. There was almost always an even distribution of pellets above (60 percent) and below (40 percent) my aim point. Whatwe're really looking to find out today is whether or not the Maxus 2 is worth the extra money when the SX4 shares many of the same internal parts as the Maxus. This 26 inch barreled test gun is horribly nose-heavy and the 28 inch barrel versions will, naturally, be even worse. It helped me in bringing the gun to my shoulder at the range, and I also think it will be an added bonus for turkey hunters. Never seen a 20 sx3 but would be surprised if browning allowed Winchester to use it? Come join the discussion about optics, hunting, gunsmithing, styles, reviews, accessories, classifieds, and more! The SX4 is about half the price (The Browning name warrants a huge markup). We set the decoys, climbed in the pit, and he unsheathed an original Browning Maxus. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. My test model was the Maxus II Wicked Wing. the new 2014 models are soon to be announced. . Although the Maxus retains the heavy triggers of most The malfunction rate could not exceed 1 percent for them to pass. Overall I really like it. I really did not understand how it could possibly fit any human being. Subscribe to our monthly Newsletter to receive firearm news, product discounts from your favorite Industry Partners, and more. That would be number one on my list. For me the answer is clearid get an 1100 and never look back. reasonable seven pound weight and a ComforTech stock that is a huge improvement The sx3's i have shot aref ine but they are a bit on the heavy side and a little harder to swing than other browning semis i've shot. One gun for all three of the uses you cite (clays, grouse, turkey) will mean a slight compromisenot perfect for all three, but adequate for all. Extremely well-built at an attractive price, the 12 gauge By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. DEL123, I've always found it to be a bit frustrating to Also I would like to know if anyone knew the retail for both of those guns because the local cabelas has the hunting models for about $400 less than the website prices. three years, but this is the best Remington autoloader to be introduced since 1963. Duck hunting is an expensive pursuit. Heavy rib, heavy trigger and And honestly, it was never a widely sought after-gun by waterfowlers or pheasant hunters (in part because the A5 and Citori are so popular). Collectively, these updates make for a slimmer, lighter and livelier gun than the predecessor. The SX3 did not offer that on its waterfowl models. All Rights Reserved. This particular gun has a Cerakote barrel and receiver coupled with Mossy Oak Shadow Grass Habitat camo on the stock and fore-end. 8/10, SX4: I know I can shoot this shotgun well. Gun Parts. Its a big investment. Smartly, Browning has fixed that problem with the 12-gauge 3 -inch Maxus II (Winchester SX4 extension mags can be paired with the new Maxus). Once you get out to 40 it takes more skill, and the likelihood of crippling birds goes up. It is well-finished in the Hunter and other walnut stocked versions and is Browning's best autoloading shotgun. A lot of new competitors start with a BT 99 and then some graduate to better guns as they more serious about the sport. I never felt the gun slip in my hands. Just finding a place to hunt can be costly if you dont have access to good hunting on public land. Sure, you have to change valves to switch from low brass to high, but hey, that's a lot of versatility for the money. Articles may contain affiliate links which enable us to share in the revenue of any purchases made. AR15.Com reserves the right to overwrite or replace any affiliate, commercial, or monetizable links, posted by users, with our own. The cheek piece on the stock does soften the blow of recoil, which was very manageable on the Maxus II. Gas guns typically cost more to manufacture than their inertia-driven counterparts because there are more moving parts to them. autoloaders out there. BROWNING SILVER / WINCHESTER SX3 / MAXUS. MAXUS 2: This shotgun stands out to me. can do without the speed loading feature. Rubber would have been better, and finally, two gas cylinders. Let's go! Good luck. A well-built inertia shotgun with a good trigger. Winchester, and sister company Browning, have cornered the market on shotgun trims. Mine is the "Flannigun" with the red receiver, duratouch and synthetic stock which I really like on rainy days. I also shot several turkey loads through my personal SX4 to break it in after purchase. Full of gimmicks, including fake plasta-wood finishes, pogo Here's one of the better reviews to date of the Maxus Sporting: I have already bought myself a trap gun, a lightly used 1985 citori trap model(very lightly used considering age). Inside 40, which is where we should all be shooting ducks and geese, Ive never noticed any difference. You also wont have any issues shooting different size loads through the SX4. Looking at it, I noticed it looked very similar to the Winchester SX4 (barrel, stock, body, even the camo paint). Welcome to /r/Shotguns, Press J to jump to the feed. The fore end of the Maxus clips on, and the Maxus has a magazine cutoff. There is a cut out on each side of the fore-end your thumb and fingers will naturally find. Winchester makes the SX4 in a compact model with a 13-inch length of pull as well. This 26 inch barreled snout-heavy pig is horribly nose-heavy, and the 28 inch barrel versions will naturally be even worse. unmarred by progress and is over-priced. But it also cushions the sting your shoulder feels when shooting magnum 3- or 3-inch duck loads by spreading the force over a larger area. If you want a 12 gauge, you may want to look at the maxus. High brass 2-3/4 is plenty for most anything. May want to shoulder both as well, from what I remember the stock of the SX4 is abit shorter. Which is the Better Gun: Maxus II 12 gauge shotgun compared to the Winchester SX4 12 gauge shotgun. I have an SX3 and it is a good gun but not great gun for range games. In 2006, Winchester debuted the SX3 with the Active Valve gas system. My custom gun paired with a Rob Roberts T3 choke does shoot better at distance. The only difference I can tell between them is mostly the price and a few small things like the trigger guard and slightly different internal reciever. And you get the same reliability from the SX4 that you would from those three guns. The Inflex pad was built to direct recoil away from the shooters face. I'd recommend it. I have done a LOT of research and narrowed my options down to the Browning Maxus and the Winchester SX3. It feels like a downgrade from the sx3. The SX4 is available with stock lengthening inserts. Does a Browning Maxus take Invector or Invector plus chokes? Nagging problems with soft parts remain. Even their websites are very similar. The 20-gauge version of the gun is only 6 pounds, 12 ounces, and is an even better option for waterfowlers who pheasant hunt or are run-and-gun turkey hunters. I have owned, and extensively hunted with, at least five Browning Golds. A group of Outdoor Life and Field & Stream editors (myself included) tested this gun in Sept. 2021, at Pintail Hunting Club in Texas. The weak one year Beretta limited Im just wondering how the 2 compare and what would give 1 an edge over the other from someone that has handled both. Was looking at the sx4 and the browning maxus, what's everyone's thoughtson these guns Quote; Link to comment Share on other sites. Anyway, here we go, the thumbs up autoloaders followed by the thumbs down Description: Browning Maxus/Winchester SX3 & SX4 Action Spring Tube. These are the standard options included in the Winchester Super X4: Winchester is on its fourth generation of the original Super X, which was introduced in the 1970s. Maybe down the line I'll buy a Maxus. In any way I can possibly rate a shotgun, the SX-4 is a significant downgrade from the SX-3. But its also a good indicator that you are on the gun.. All rights reserved. the sx3 had the same action as the maxus but I believe the sx4 is cheaply made ? A few buddies that owned them put shooting tape on the fore-end to ensure the gun would not slip from their hands. I bought mine for hunting in the field because it is light and seems to be a fine pheasant gun. Joe Genzel is a senior editor at Outdoor Life. But since the only thing left to hunt in Illinois besides whitetails are grays and foxtails, he now spends most of the fall and winter searching for oak and black walnut trees, and walking behind a crazy Russian squirrel dog named Vladimir. Sometimes when a gobbler hangs up you have to aim at the tom for 15 or 20 minutes (maybe longer). Fits 12 gauge Winchester SX3 & SX4 camo, and composite . The gun cycled flawlessly on a brisk 20-degree day in late February. This 26 inch barreled snout-heavy pig is horribly nose-heavy, and the 28 inch barrel versions will naturally be even worse. That is a decision that you must make for yourself! Since this is so very rarely Its there for 3-gun shooters so they can load multiple shells into the magazine at once with relative ease. We shot light 1-ounce target loads and heavy 1 1/8-ounce duck ammo on bluewing teal with the SX4. Thomas Jefferson. I stand and bring it to my shoulder like I would in a duck blind or pheasant field, and fire. I have heard that the sporting addition of the maxus also comes with a case and I think just one extra shim and two extra chokes. Its also much easier to clean and has almost a 60 year track record of reliability. I currently use the one for 1 1/4 oz loads with everything and so far no problem, but might not work with light loads. Ive found the system to be both handy and a pain in the ass. Browning Maxus Grackle_killer. autoloader that is essentially maintenance-free. You almost have to push the shotshell all the way into the magazine tube and pull your thumb out fast enough so the lifter can catch the shell and deliver it to the chamber. Not at all. Join our mailing list to receive the latest news and updates from our team.Don't worry, your information will not be shared. Pasted as rich text. As you can probably tell by the custom Cerakote finish on this test gun (which is my personal SX4) there have been some aftermarket modifications made that you wont find on a factory SX4. Any use of this content without express written consent is prohibited. 1100, its design has stood the test of time. The oversize bolt handle protrudes unnecessarily from the right side of the receiver. recoil and backed by the best customer service team in the industry. Just $1 per month , Brownings flagship gas-operated autoloader has slimmed down and become a more shooter-friendly shotgun, By So shotgun manufacturers have turned their focus to the outside of the gun. The Browning Maxus II pattern from 35 yards. Browning supplies many of the same options in its A5 and Maxus II. The fore end of the Maxus clips on, and the Maxus has a magazine cutoff. ***Buy American***. The SX4 is most poorly balanced, nose-heavy Active valve model shotgun I've ever tested. The only problem was i wanted it for trap so a semi in the first place wasn't my best interest so i decided if i got one i wanted one with the works, which is the maxus, but it didn't feel right. Let's get into this showdown! 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